A few days ago in the distinguish Senate of the United States our Vice President told the distinguished Senator from Vermont Leahy (D) to, “ go fuck yourself”. Lets just sit back and think about aged and ‘wise’ Cheney tells equally aged and ‘wise’ Leahy to “go fuck yourself”. Whenever I look at VP Cheney I will be sure to remember those wise words to Senator Leahy to “go fuck yourself”

I have as big a temper as anyone and have been in heated arguments with others for one reason or another but it is still quite rare that I resort to using profanity, especially in official business with peers doing very important business.

Sure yelling may occur (which to some is also unacceptable) on occasion but I rarely sink to the level of using profanity.

Professionals in business and psychology will tell you it is not nice or healthy to even yell and in many cases is counterproductive (of course I like to see human beings express [not take action] the full range of emotions) and they would definitely say the use of profanity is not acceptable when dealing with other professionals.

Cheney argued that Leahy got what he deserved because he was the type of person who will insult you on the senate floor and then try to make ‘nice’ with you later.

I thought that was what they do in politics where there are people with different views on various issues and they want to advance their arguments. It is often the case that many will feel that the way a person advances an argument is personally insulting (maybe to some degree the arguments are).

People in the professional world use the ‘Leahy technique’ all the time. You know the cop that pulls you over for speeding and you give all sorts of reasons why you shouldn’t get a ticket and he says, “nothing personal, its only business”. (or “tell it to the judge”).

So what is Cheney trying to say about Leahy? He didn’t like what Leahy said about him during debate on the senate floor, to a fellow member, in committee meetings or something?

They say things aren’t as civil and members of the federal legislature are not friends like they use to be. Business use to remain on the House or Senate floor and members went out to restaurants or bars after business hours and in other ways hung out and made friends with their fellow members even if their political views were opposite. I guess those days are gone.

Maybe we should all start using foul language in our business and professional interactions. Yelling or arguing may not be enough. A cuss word here or there at the right point may just be ‘what the doctor ordered’.

At the store when the teller overcharges me I can yell, “ you fucking cashier! “You overcharged me you son of a bitch! Now give me the right fucking change.” And if he yells and cusses back at me I can do like Cheney and say, “go fuck yourself”(and add….. “bitch!”).

Comments
on Jun 27, 2004
Wow, so the vice president is a human being....wow. Maybe he also sees how shallow and unproductive the legislature is, sitting around and stonewalling each other, sending pork back home by the ton, and pretty much leeching of the American people in the guise of government.

So maybe when one of these crooked, lazy leeches walks up and makes a smart remark about how Cheney is supposedly corrupt, maybe he is tempted to spit back at the same level that the majority of the congress functions as a standard operaing procedure.

Lol, I'm sorry, but after seeing "fuck bush" written on untold numbers of picket signs, images of him morphing into hitler, hearing Gore liken Republican activists Nazi propagandists... F*ck yourself is pretty damned tame.

Leahy walked up and jabbed Cheney about Halliburton, unofficially, unprovoked. You might find "f*uck yourself" to be worse than openly accusing someone of malpheasance in a forum where the other person has no ability to defend himself, but I don't.

As far as I am concerned Leahy can go f*ck himself. Maybe he'd mellow out a bit.

on Jun 27, 2004
Hell, I do it all the motherfuckin' time! If we had more people like the late General Patton taking care of business instead of these "let's don't hurt nobody's feelings" pussys, it would be a better world...
on Jun 27, 2004
you my friend are an asshole!
on Jun 27, 2004
you my friend are an asshole!
on Jul 02, 2004
I'm glad to see Call Me Crazy is learning from Cheney. Keep up the lessons and you'll get there. I have seen Leahy in action on the in the Senate and on Committees. He seems to be one of the most cool, calm and pleasant individuals one could know. I don't think he deserved the treatment he got from our almost always trying to be logical (but in many cases wrong) Vice President.
I wouldn't say anything if Cheney and many in the Republican party weren't always acting as if they were god's gift to man. There arrogance is sickening.
on Jul 02, 2004
averjoe:

So it is okay to openly accuse someone of corruption in a public forum with no proof, but you have to follow rules when you express yourself about it. It's unimportant that somone spouts lies, but you better make damn sure you don't respond with eeeeevil profanity.

It comepletely amazes me that Liberals over and over and over protect hate speech, ban kiddie porn filters, dismiss indecency laws, defend sickening and utterly moronic movies, and all within the bounds of "freedom of expression". Then, when a political opponent says "F*ck yourself" when antagonized and defamed by some half-wit opportunist looking to "take him down a notch", he is supposedly morally reprehensible.

Can you not see how obviously political this outrage is? Can you not see how after every dispicable waste of skin is given the benefit of their "art" it rings completely untrue when you try to act like you are such prudes?

My advice? Go f*ck yourself. You can do worse things with your time. Assholes just don't like to get bit back, that's all.
on Jul 07, 2004
VP Cheney should sue for libel ( or is it slander) if he feels he was accused of a crime which he did not commit. If former President Clinton can be admonished for having sex in the Oval Office because it is considered bad behavior (and I agree that it was bad behavior) then VP Cheney can be critisized for making a childish remark to a congressman who was going up to him to demonstrate no hard feelings but was suddenly insulted by Cheney which is also bad behavior (Shame on Cheney).
on Jul 07, 2004
, shame, shame, shame... how you can equate getting a hummer in the oval office and then using presidential authority to getting your girlfriend a job with a bit of creative self expression I'll never know.

I mean, come on. You guys are beating a dead horse.
on Jul 07, 2004
Maybe you all that think Cheney was wrong should read Kerry's interview with Rolling Stone Magazine -

Kerry told Rolling Stone he didn't expect to be hurt politically over his vote to support Bush's resolution to use force in Iraq. Since his vote, Kerry has been hobbled on the campaign trail as anti-war Democrat Howard Dean has soared to the lead in most primary polls.

``I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, `I'm against everything'? Sure,'' Kerry said.

``Did I expect George Bush to f--- it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did,'' Kerry said, not deleting the expletive.

Hmmmm
on Jul 09, 2004
ShadowWar, there is a distinct difference between saying "f**k it up" meaning to mess something up and telling one to " go f**k yourself"
on Jul 09, 2004
Go read what was said at last night's Manhatten fundraiser.

At least Cheney would have the balls to say things to the other person's face. These people like to prop themselves up with vulgar ridicule, but the next time they are in the presence of the President they'll smile and be two-faced as always.

If Cheney's behavior should shame anyone, it is all the people that say the equivalent of "Go F*ck yourself" and worse about the President every day, but wouldn't have the guts to give him the slightest bit of criticism to his face.
on Jul 09, 2004
Regardless of what Joe Public's banners and emails are saying, he is not Joe Public, he is the vice president of the United States. Even I would never tell anyone to "go fuck yourself" in a business meeting - of any kind, even if it were with people I work with every day and might even go drinking with, and they had just personally insulted me.

To bring down the tone of government like that is pretty bad - but it does show that politicians are human too, and can be upset.

Regardless, rather than using profanity on the floor - someone like him should be setting an example. The fuck-wit.
on Jul 09, 2004


ShadowWar, there is a distinct difference between saying "f**k it up" meaning to mess something up and telling one to " go f**k yourself"


Ya your right, one was said from one person to another, the other was said in a NATIONAL MAGAZINE INTERVIEW.. wonder which was less polite??
on Jul 09, 2004
Sam, have you ever been around politicians? Frankly if you think "F*ck yourself" is something out of character you are nuts. This is a non-issue made outrageous by the "anyone but Bush" crowd, and most sadly by people who know this was no big deal.